When you were 17, what did you want to be?
When I was 17, I was oscillating between a few things. I thought I might want to be a psychologist. I was kind of interested in being a karate instructor. I did taekwondo for six years. I didn't study it so much as that my parents forced me to go to classes. I'm not very athletic. I thought that I wanted to maybe become a journalist, but I think really what it was was that I was so intrigued by high school speech and debate, and that there was a forum in which you could exchange ideas, and also kind of recognize that there's no one worldview, that every issue has multiple sides. That sort of led me to this belief, whether it's true or not, that being a lawyer is the professional version of being a high school debater. I think at 17, that was sort of the path I was thinking about.